Overlap face frame or even?

[Bigfoot]

What would be the best thing to do when making kitchen cabinets? I'm using 3/4" birch plywood for the carcase and 1,1/2 face frame. Now I can either overlap the carcase or make it even with the inside of the plywood box. What is done most of the time? or what are the advantages or disadvantages to either? Thanks in advance....Don:)

[jcclark]

For kitchen cabinets side by side-always have the frame stand proud a little,
that's the best way of drawing them up tight together.
Now for cabinets that the corner is exposed, flush looks nice.

Top end cabinets are bolted together in the shop for final sanding
then taken apart for finishing.
That ensures the best joint in the field.
And if you lay-out the wood right at first, then the grain will match
on both cabinets when bolted together.
A little extreme maybe, but it's a nice touch.:cool:

[Don]

Hey, Don and welcome to the forum. As JC allowed, having a little overhang on kitchen cabinets is typical on faceframe construction. Not only does it allow the joints between to tighten, but is allows for a wall that might be concave or convex.

But . . . if you are making them for you, you have the opportunity to do whatever you want.

Show us some pictures when you can.

dawjr

[Bigfoot]

I've not been able to find anyone with woodworking interests around here, meaning locally. Thanks for the input, I believe I'll overlap the face frame the 3/4" as you boys suggest. The only advantage to making the face frame ever with the inside of the carcase would be the drawer slides seem to mount better. Thanks again Don

[dpmcreations]

Overlap or not too overlap... Tell you the truth, I almost always overlap, due to differences in walls, windows, etc. etc.. It is always easier to take a little off... You never know, if the wall is really off, you may have to take some off of several cabinets... Now on ends, It depends upon the style that I am doing for the customer... He/she/they may like a gorgeous smooth finish or they may want a 1/8" out... Normally I like to do smooth, but I do ask my customers what style design they do want.. Options like that are great and simple ones. Again, Happy customers are good customers...

Have a great time and welcome..

[Pat]

I think Bigfoot is talking about the inside of the cabinet box. I always make the face-frame flush on the inside. It's easier for drawer slides, euro-hinge install, and looks better IMO. Especially for the bottom piece - and it's unhandy for the user to have a piece of wood sticking up to hang up stuff when taking out of the cabinet.

As far as the outside goes I agree always should be proud of the carcass.

[Don]

Yeah, I think we misunderstood the question. There is a lot of great hardware out there for 32mm (Euro) construction. All of it revolves around having the inside of the box flush.

dawjr

[Bigfoot]

Yes Don and Pat seem to have the idea I was trying to convey. I guess I am not very good at explaining. What I did to the base cabinet I'm building in my shop was to overlap the face frame 3/4" which means if I use side drawer slides I'll need to build the insides up another 3/4" on both sides with a shim to get the slides to work. I'm thinking I might try the even face frame technique, it would save some extra work there, and I could use more different types of slides available out there, as you men have suggested already. Well thanks for the information and have a great week Don Bigfoot

[dpmcreations]

it seems as if my brain is not functioning properly... Yes.. I agree for most jobs doing European style to even the inside edges.. Although I have done a couple of projects where the people have requested lips on the insides... Have a great time and good luck building all..

[Jammin]

If you go with face frames you can screw the side of the slide to the face frame. The back of the slide you really want to mount that to the back of the cabinet. Use a mount in the rear that will allow the drawer slide to move side to side and will work trouble free. Now if you put drawer slides inside of a base cabinet with Euro hinges, you will have a clerance problem. It is easy to fix with blocking at face frame and reducing the pull out drawer in width to clear the hinges mounting hardware