View Full Version : Has anyone built a boat?
Knotme
10-29-2007, 11:51 AM
Here are a couple of pictures of a little dinghy I built using the "stitch and glue" method of construction. I will elaborate if anyone is interested.
KM
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m206/donwright/Boats/IMG_1151.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m206/donwright/Boats/IMG_1153.jpg
thekl0wn
10-29-2007, 12:50 PM
A bit different though...
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f263/thekl0wn/z1bWINNER_J6Q1917.jpg
:D
Dagster
10-29-2007, 02:47 PM
Very nice. I'd love to tackle a boat build one day.
Terry Mac
10-29-2007, 08:46 PM
Hey Knot, I would like to have some more details on the "stitch and glue" method you employed.
I've helped with a few different boat buildings over the course of years. Wood boats which we would then brush on gougeon and then fiberglass. Adding layers till it was to the boat owners specifications.
Very nice job on your boat! Looks good
Dagster
10-29-2007, 09:21 PM
Yes, please elaborate.
Dagster
10-30-2007, 04:40 PM
Hey, has anyone got plans for building a simple 12' or so Jon boat? I'd like to get one for duck hunting but it might be fun to build one in the off season.
thekl0wn
10-30-2007, 05:50 PM
Hey, has anyone got plans for building a simple 12' or so Jon boat? I'd like to get one for duck hunting but it might be fun to build one in the off season.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f263/thekl0wn/Funny/Redneck/boatcepek.jpg
:confused:
Terry Mac
10-30-2007, 06:04 PM
LMAO!
Goodness that's pretty good. *wiping coke from monitor*
Dagster
10-30-2007, 07:57 PM
SWEET! Where do you put the case of beer though?
doctormark
10-31-2007, 02:27 PM
Turn in your redneck credentials. Obviously, you tie a string to the six pack
and toss her overboard.
Dagster
10-31-2007, 02:35 PM
Maybe I've been working in the city too long. I apologize for forgetting my roots although I do recall using an inner tube around the beer in tow to protect it from any collisions :D
thekl0wn
10-31-2007, 05:05 PM
Maybe I've been working in the city too long. I apologize for forgetting my roots although I do recall using an inner tube around the beer in tow to protect it from any collisions :D
That would be correct! :D
Or the preferred method is a "river cooler"... Cooler/radio that floats! :cool:
Hey, Dag - I hate to turn you guys onto this site, everyone will leave, but here goes.
http://bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=GF12&cat=9 for a small jon boat
and http://bateau.com/index.php for the whole shmear
This site is golden, it's where I got the plans for my dinghy.
I also have the plans for this http://bateau.com/proddetail.php?prod=VG20
I took the plans and transferred every single piece to CAD ready to cut out on CNC. Then I backed off and did something else I can't remember.
Anyway to elaborate, most of the boat's if not all on this site advocate the "stitch and glue" method of construction. Essentially, you cut out the parts from plywood, pull the pieces to gether along the edges, "stitching" them together with wire or whatever, this "pulls" the boat into shape. Then you laminate over the seams with glass tape and epoxy resin, not polyester resin. This makes for an epoxy encapsulated wood substrate. Polyester resin is hydroscopic, meaning water molecules can migrate, that's the main reason for Gel Coat on boats. How many of you have seen the wooden floor rot right out of the bottom of a fiberglass boat? The gelcoat cracks from expansion, walking, etc, water finds it's way in. Build something and coat it with epoxy, no worries (other than UV).
Most will find this site inspiring, I did - and I see they've got a lot of new stuff.
Dag - get that CNC working, I need it.
dawjr
(If anyone knows how to get the pictures out of a word document and can tell me, I'll post some build pictures)
During the summer of 2000 I started looking at different ways to get some exercise that would be fun and hold my attention. One possibility was a kayak type of craft to paddle around the St. Johns here in Jacksonville.
I looked at various plastic offerings and was very reluctant to make up my mind. When I finally did settle on a Wilderness Systems "sit on top" kayak, the dealer was out of stock. That was enough to convince me to re-evaluate the whole thing. During various searches on the net I started entertaining the idea of building some type of water craft.
I stumbled upon Jacques Mertins' boat plan site and started to remember that my first love in boats was a 14' Phantom sailboat. It was great exercise and fun but when we moved away from the lake the boat sat beside the house for years. Later, when we moved closer to the river, I began to get the itch again. I bought my second boat, a 15" Laser ll. This boat was just too high strung for single handing in anything over a moderate breeze. This boat added new meaning to the phrase "cuss like a sailor." I finally got rid of it during the summer of 99.
The boat plans at bateau.com were of the stitch and glue design. A technique that has many attributes, the least of which is the speed of construction. After reading all of the forums and visiting all of the great links I decided on two boats. First, the V-10 Dinghy. A 10' traditional V-bottom boat that can be rowed, towed, sailed and can handle a small outboard. Versatile enough.
However, I would use the skills and knowledge gained to build a larger boat, the VG-20. The Vagabond Plus. A 20' trailerable sailboat that matched my requirements perfectly. More on that to come.
Here are some pictures of the V-10 as construction is progressing. Unfortunately, the layout and cut-up of the plywood went so quickly that no pictures were taken.
Here the panels have been cut to shape and the pieces joined for length with small pieces of plywood. I then drilled a series of holes along adjoining parts for the plastic cable ties. All of the holes were laid out and drilled in advance.
Barbara and I assembled the entire boat this way in about 45 minutes. It was pretty exciting to see the boat go together so quickly. You start out with two dimensional pieces of plywood and end up with a very graceful three dimensional shape.
Here are a few pictures of the boat in the early stages. Above pictures show the basic boat with the the three bulkheads (frames) in place. These were in place from the beginning when the boat was wired together. Even at this stage I've made a few modifications. The aft frame has a small storage compartment under the seat. A good place for caps, sun glasses etc. The mid seat frame has cutouts for lightening the boat a little and to help with oar and mast storage. By the plans, the front seat is eliminated if you are going to build the sailing version. I added hole for a flush deckplate (screw in hatch) in the front bulkhead. The forward compartment is for dry storage and floatation. I added a horizontal piece below the sheer on the bow. A good place to throw a rope and stuff.
(If anyone knows how to get the pictures out of a word document and can tell me, I'll post some build pictures)
dawjr
Dagster
10-31-2007, 05:57 PM
Thanks for the links... I doubt we'll be leaving for that site anytime soon, we can just bring what we learn back here :D
What size panels need to be cut on CNC for the boat? Just curious. My capacity will be something like 28" wide and 45" long although pieces can be cut in sections for the length.
I'm still gathering parts trying to get all I need for December. I have most of the month off and might have time to build.
I don't see images in your post above :(
Full sheets on the panels, sorry. And unless someone can get the pics out of a word doc, I'll have to wait to search the home computer for the pics.
dawjr
Dagster
10-31-2007, 06:07 PM
Well, the CNC would be good for gussets and smaller parts etc... still probably pretty useful for the build.
Can you upload the word doc and link to it? That would be cool :D
Cobra Cory
11-06-2007, 05:06 PM
How about this for a boat
http://www.mavromatic.com/archives/000503
http://www.mavromatic.com/images/ferrari-f50.jpg
thekl0wn
11-06-2007, 05:56 PM
How about this for a boat
http://www.mavromatic.com/archives/000503
I'll bet he's either very rich, or single. http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f263/thekl0wn/smilies/lol.gif
Radio
11-07-2007, 12:35 AM
Pygmy Boats (http://www.pygmyboats.com/) has a great kit for a small row boat, kayaks and rowing shells. They are located in the Port Townsend, WA
osomxl
06-07-2009, 06:48 AM
http://www.boatdesigns.com/
Check out this link!
Glen-L has been around for years and they have a plan for just about every type of boat including steel and aluminum as well as the plans to make the trailer to tow them. I frequent the site often and offer the stitch and glue method as well as a few others.
I will apologize in advance for the new addiction you will now have!
-Eric
jcclark
06-08-2009, 02:36 PM
keep it simple
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f386/jcquack/MISC/thBoat.jpg
That's a good one, I've seen it before. Probably okay until he stops or the waves get higher. I guess that's a redneck party barge. The great thing is that you can simply keep adding leaves as your number of friends increase.
dawjr
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