View Full Version : Before remodel pics. Idea's welcome.
Dr. Jim
10-23-2007, 12:29 PM
Greetz all,
Hate to post requests without much to offer, but I just don't have much to offer :-( yet.
Been alluding to this project in the Finishing section, and made reference as well in TheKl0wns awesome house thread....
This is our mountain home. We are moving there permanently in spring. And hope to have some of our projects completed by then. Only thing done so far is to replace the solid exterior door in the kitchen with a glass door.
btw - Furnishings not ours,...pics taken prior to purchasing the home.
You will note the ceiling in the kitchen, and how it extends out under the loft and runs the length of the house. This is project #1, to plank it with wood, and install wood soffit along the length of that bottom ledge, to cap the planking at that end, and ofcourse add a nice touch.
Planning on building some cut 2/4 blocks every so often, and then side it on the sides.
Interesting mix of wood,...the door trim and doors are all natural with a slight white pickle to them,....the floor is pretty light,..
Other than that we are going to replace all kitchen counters and cabinets. havent started investigating that yet,....hate to use the word "home center",...but I dont know how much $$$ custom will potentially cost. I will price it out though.
Other projects include bathroom remodels, and finding places to integrate more wood where it will aesthetically work.
Right now the house is a little too contemporary/modern on the inside. It sits high in the Blueridge mountains, surrounded by acres of woods and needs to get a bit more 'rustic' to fit with the environment.
Thought I would share,....and ofcourse suggestions welcome.
http://www.gfxmoo.com/sun_valley/great_2.jpg
http://www.gfxmoo.com/sun_valley/great_4.jpg
http://www.gfxmoo.com/sun_valley/great_5.jpg
http://www.gfxmoo.com/sun_valley/kit_1.jpg
All pics at www.gfxmoo.com/sun_valley
Jammin
10-23-2007, 12:40 PM
Looks like a good project. Keep us posted
thekl0wn
10-23-2007, 12:49 PM
Beautiful space, but IMO, it looks to have a mix of styles... The white fans, layout, and ceiling lines have a very contemporary feel to it, but the stove, rods, and deer all scream rustic. If it were me, I would go more heavily to one way or the other.
How's that for a vague answer? :D
Dr. Jim
10-23-2007, 01:45 PM
Klown -
Yup. That is what we are doing. I mentioned that all the furniture,...etc..etc....is NOT ours. These pics were taken before we bought the house,....that is all the previous owners decor.
We are wanting to take this much more rustic.
Aside from decor. The only ideas we have right now is the wood plank ceiling in the kitchen (which runs all the way down unto the loft). Wood drop soffit/beam at lower end of loft facade. Re-doing the kitchen completely. Replacing all fixtures/fans.
We want to bring in more, and more wood. But do NOT want to just 'throw wood up'. Gotta be aesthetically proper,...and look right.
And I dont think there is much we can do with the 'ceiling lines' ?
thekl0wn
10-23-2007, 02:24 PM
I originally viewed this thread before morning coffee!
Three things that would help push the rustic feel:
-Different fans. Something in a wooden blade, and some sort of brushed (brass/copper?) drop poles.
-Darken the trim. It may just be that I'm not a fan of the whit-ish stained trim, but I think getting the doorways outlined in some form of a darker trim would help.
-Curtains. As pictured, everything is white, and flat. Darker trim and dark curtains will break up the walls. This will definitely help when you start incorporating more wood.
These are probably some of the cheaper methods to get it started, and will make everything "flow" a bit more.
You might also look into different lighting. The wall below the loft railing would be an excellent place to put some form of decorative wall lighting, that would break up the monotony of that long narrow wall, and double as some mood lighting for those nights cuddled up around the stove! :D
I'm anxious to see progress on this one! And I'm sure I'll have more ideas pop in my head.
Dr. Jim. Good ideas by all so far but I don't think any of them are going put you at the comfort level that you are used to and so richly deserve. With that in mind here's my plan. PM me the address of the place and I'll send you the address where you can send the keys to me. Contact you local banker and have him fill a box with cash, have him leave it in the freezer. Have him also stock the cupboards with supplies, groceries, wine and beer for two. I like at least a 200 thread count on the bedsheets. Have a high speed Internet connection installed. DirectTV and a Tivo unit as well.
Postpone your arrival date by about . . . 3 years. You will be pleasantly surprised at how I've labored to smooth the floor surfaces in front of the fridge, stove and sink. How I've hardened the porcelain on the wood burning stove, I'll even push the stove over to straighten the flue, no extra charge. I will also spend countless hours writing out a plan of action for turning this little bungalow into a place you can spend your golden years in. I'll give that to you upon you arrival. You won't need to do a thing but do the work, no thinking at all. Sounds too good to be true doesn't it? That, my Friend, is the value of belonging to such a forum.
Hurry though, I don't like to drive in the snow.
All the best, Don
thekl0wn
10-23-2007, 04:46 PM
Heck, I'll settle for beer in the fridge and high speed internet... I'll even pick Don up on the way... I'm sure Florida is on the way to the mountains from Indiana! :p
I'll even babysit any daughters between the ages of 18 and 30, at no charge! :D
Back OT: Another thought for more rustic feel, would be to wrap your posts. Those posts in the loft look a bit puny, and I'm a fan of beefy-looking posts, no matter the application.
Terry Mac
10-23-2007, 04:59 PM
Dr. Jim, that's a nice place. Never have been good on interior design, so going to set out and let the others chime in. I always believed that indoor plumbing was the greatest thing since sliced bread; so you wouldn't want me helping anyway. :eek:
Don, I have clients that aren't near as smooth as you are. LOL
Dr. Jim
11-05-2007, 12:15 PM
Countdown, 10 days till tongue/groove ceiling install.
Couple thoughts?
The 5/16 cedar planks I am using are pretty thin....
I was planning on using a brad nailer (new gun kit:-) and go in 45dg at the tongue like normal (onto ceiling drywall, into joist),....BUT I am wondering on something this thin if it might just shoot right though? ..........will have to try a test tonight.
And also, another thought?...Considering how light this stuff is,.....I wonder if I could use liquid nails or such to adhere it to the existing ceiling drywall?
I would not mess with the adhesive, I don't think it's necessary. But you could it you wanted to. The gun is not going to shoot through, the pins are driven in, not shot. You may find that you don't need full pressure to do the job, maybe as low as 50-60 lbs.
I wish I only had to work 10 more days. Enjoy it.
dawjr
Dr. Jim
11-05-2007, 02:19 PM
Thanks Don.
I was thinking in terms of using adhesive 'instead' of nails due to the light weight,....BUT prolly be better going with the nails,..and good point on adjusting the pressure. Easy enough.
btw - 10 more days of work? I'm not retiring or anything?....Just meant 10 days till our next trip down to the house to do the ceiling and some other stuff.
All these posts about finishing, and cedar, and everything else......finally coming to fruition.
Thx again!
dustyangel42
11-05-2007, 07:38 PM
Hi guys,
I’m really impressed with everyone’s ideals. Give me a jack and dt. coke and I’ll sit back and supervise while I’m recuperating, I promise to leave the whip at home.
Just from a woman’s point the guy’s are right on it. There’s not much color and not enough wood. I would also go with darker trim and maybe a wooden valance over your windows, but then I’m just a woman…:rolleyes:
Terry Mac
11-05-2007, 07:51 PM
Bring. . .The. . . Whip!
They'll need it to keep working while we drink our cocktails and you supervise!
:D
Jammin
11-05-2007, 08:28 PM
I would defintly use construction adhesive. If you have 1 board come lose in the middle of the ceiling it could a be a snow ball affect with the rest of the ceiling. You could need to pull down alot of the ceiling to fix. I wouldnt use a lot of adhesive, but I would put a little on each board
Dr. Jim
11-05-2007, 09:19 PM
Varied opinions.......interesting.
To clarify,...my options are: (keep in mind this is REALLY light 5/16 thick cedar)
1) Nails only (through sheetrock into joists)
2) Adhesive only (plank to sheetrock)
3) Nails AND adhesive
thekl0wn
11-05-2007, 09:36 PM
Dr. Jim, you forgot to add Nails & Glue + protective netting in case both would ever simultaneously fail. :p
Personally, I like the idea of using a bit of glue on each along with nails. Though, if nailed correctly, it shouldn't come loose, ever.
Terry Mac
11-05-2007, 10:11 PM
Wondering what kind of adhesive you're thinking about?
On big projects like that, even though it may be 5/16", I would also use adhesive and 2" finish nails. If you're using "Liquid Nails", then you could have a larger space between each finish nail.
Jammin
11-06-2007, 12:39 PM
I would definitly use adhesive. You are dealing with gravity, brad nails, and heat. Over time if some of the brads loosen you could get some boards to loosen up. With the ceiling being tongue and grove it could loosen other boards due to gravity. Then its a pain in the butt to fix because it is all tongue and grove. You may not think it could happen but I have gone and fixed ceilings it has happened to. You dont need a lot of adhesive, just a few spots per board.
woodman43
12-07-2007, 09:11 PM
Varied opinions.......interesting.
To clarify,...my options are: (keep in mind this is REALLY light 5/16 thick cedar)
1) Nails only (through sheetrock into joists)
2) Adhesive only (plank to sheetrock)
3) Nails AND adhesive
Sweet place Dr. Jim.
I would go with #3 as well. Better to be safe than sorry later.:D
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